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dbExpress a (strange) solution ?

edited March 2003 in DADE
I found a way which seems to work... well, I can now build a SQL on a
Interbase server using
dbExpress (and print a report !). All the previous exceptions seem for the
moment disapeared.

Designer.DataSettings :
A TppDataDictionary must be assigned.
UseDatadictionary must be true.

DataDictionary :
ValidateFieldNames must be False.
ValidateTableNames must be False.

Regards
Marc

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  • edited March 2003
    That is strange. What else is different about this setup than before? Is
    only the dictionary assignment different? I still think you had a
    configuration problem with the dbExpress connection settings, if you
    couldn't get a simple button based TSQLConnection.GetTableNames demo to work
    before.

    You should be able to disconnect the data dictionary and it should work. How
    do you think the data dictionary builder is able to get the tablenames?-It
    uses the SQLConnection at Delphi design time. You must be changing some
    setting somewhere at runtime so that the SQLConnection fails at runtime.
    Have you verified that you only have one Interbase driver definition in your
    dbxDrivers.ini file and that you aren't using two different ones? Everything
    is working fine in our tests here. If you could describe the environment in
    its entirety, perhaps I could reproduce the problem. If I could reproduce
    the problem on my machine using your suggestions, then maybe then there
    could be more checks added in our code, as you say you get access
    violations, so that this doesn't happen and you can get an appropriate
    exception raised instead which can help you track down the problem.


    Cheers,

    Jim Bennett
    Digital Metaphors


  • edited March 2003
    A quick answer (time difference) I didn't check all...
    First sorry for the different thread.
    Well, to obtain those kind of result I had to modify the
    daDbExpress.GetTableNames as wrote above.
    My connection parameters are exactly the same as yours.
    I only have one Interbase driver in my dbxDrivers.ini.
    But...
    On my system 2 dbexpint.dll are present (?).
    One in the windows sytem dir and another in the delphi lib dir.
    They are different (size and date).
    After changing the older one, GetTableNames seems to work.
    The tables can be displayed.
    A query seems to be build in RB without SQL statement error.
    A problem is still present :
    switching between use/not use datadictionay at runtime doesn't work :
    The Tables and the Fields remain the same, only the Joins seem to be
    affected.
    (same problem with desktop database as paradox).

    Many thanks for your help.
    I will try to advise you a better and understanding message.

    Regards

    Marc
  • edited March 2003
    Hello,
    Sure now the GetTableNames procedure works properly,
    I had a conflict between the two dxexpint.dlls on my system.

    Sure also that switching at runtime between use/not use DataDictionary
    doesn't work.
    RB keep the design time designer.datasettings.
    Ex :
    At design time UseDatadictionary=true
    The COUNTRY table does'nt belong to the dictionary.
    I run the demo app.
    DataTab File/New
    Only the tables of the dictionary are present, it is correct
    File/DataSettings-> do not use the dictionary
    File/New
    Only the tables of the dictionary are present, it is not correct.
    What do you think of this ?

    Below you will find the complete MyEURpt.dfm
    Sorry it is a bit long, but if you find sommething not correct...

    Thanks

    Regards

    Marc

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    FieldAlias = 'FIELD_NAMES2'
    FieldName = 'FIELD_NAMES2'
    FieldLength = 255
    DisplayWidth = 255
    Position = 5
    end
    end
    object euSQLConnection: TSQLConnection
    DriverName = 'Interbase'
    GetDriverFunc = 'getSQLDriverINTERBASE'
    LibraryName = 'dbexpint.dll'
    LoginPrompt = False
    Params.Strings = (

    'Database=C:\Program Files\Fichiers communs\Borland Shared\Data\e' +
    'mployee.gdb'
    'RoleName=RoleName'
    'User_Name=sysdba'
    'Password=masterkey'
    'ServerCharSet='
    'SQLDialect=1'
    'BlobSize=-1'
    'CommitRetain=False'
    'WaitOnLocks=True'
    'ErrorResourceFile='
    'LocaleCode=0000'
    'Interbase TransIsolation=ReadCommited'
    'Trim Char=False')
    VendorLib = 'gds32.dll'
    Connected = True
    Left = 288
    Top = 232
    end
    object sdsFolder: TSimpleDataSet
    Aggregates = <>
    Connection = euSQLConnection
    DataSet.CommandText = 'select * from rb_folder'
    DataSet.MaxBlobSize = -1
    DataSet.Params = <>
    Params = <>
    Left = 14
    Top = 193
    end
    object sdsItem: TSimpleDataSet
    Active = True
    Aggregates = <>
    Connection = euSQLConnection
    DataSet.CommandText = 'select * from rb_item'
    DataSet.MaxBlobSize = -1
    DataSet.Params = <>
    Params = <>
    Left = 15
    Top = 278
    end
    object sdsTable: TSimpleDataSet
    Active = True
    Aggregates = <>
    Connection = euSQLConnection
    DataSet.CommandText = 'select * from rb_table'
    DataSet.MaxBlobSize = -1
    DataSet.Params = <>
    Params = <>
    Left = 23
    Top = 506
    end
    object sdsField: TSimpleDataSet
    Active = True
    Aggregates = <>
    Connection = euSQLConnection
    DataSet.CommandText = 'select * from rb_field'
    DataSet.MaxBlobSize = -1
    DataSet.Params = <>
    Params = <>
    Left = 139
    Top = 509
    end
    object sdsJoin: TSimpleDataSet
    Active = True
    Aggregates = <>
    Connection = euSQLConnection
    DataSet.CommandText = 'select * from rb_join'
    DataSet.MaxBlobSize = -1
    DataSet.Params = <>
    Params = <>
    Left = 251
    Top = 510
    end
    end
  • edited March 2003
    I remember you were altering the dbExpress DADE plugin source when you were
    debugging it. The only thing I can think of at this point is that perhaps
    you made other changes to RBuilder\Source that breaks the non-datadictionary
    version of the plugin? Now that GetTableNames is working, perhaps make sure
    that your library path is pointed to the installed RBuilder\Lib's dcu's and
    that you are using the installed RB7 version of the DBExpress DADE plugin.


    Cheers,

    Jim Bennett
    Digital Metaphors


  • edited March 2003
    Yes the originals files are now in the library path and I still have the
    same datadictionary problem.

    I have it with :

    dbExpress/Interbase
    IBExpress/Interbase
    BDE/Interbase
    BDE/Paradox

    I didn't check yet the others

    Thanks

    Marc
  • edited March 2003
    Hello,
    Can the query designer build sql statement like this ?

    Select A from X where A In (Select A in Y where B...) ?

    Have you got infos about the datadictionary ?
    Thanks
    Regards

    Marc
  • edited March 2003
    All of our demos work with the data dictionary. We have tested them on
    various operating systems, using different printers and different versions
    of Delphi. The four you have listed below work without problems here using
    the data dictionary. At this point, I want to know the exact steps you take
    in order to reproduce the problem. Use our out-of-the-box Autojoin
    BDE/Paradox End Used demo project. Perhaps there are multiple databases with
    the rb end user tables and that they have different entries in the data
    dictionaries. Search your hard drive for the Employye.gdb and the rb*.db
    Paradox tables.

    Cheers,

    Jim Bennett
    Digital Metaphors


  • edited March 2003
    No, the current query designer checks the value type of the criteria that
    you enter for the search criteria. You'll have to edit the SQL text to
    perform this query in DADE.


    Cheers,

    Jim Bennett
    Digital Metaphors


  • edited March 2003
    Sorry Jim but I have already tried to intall completly D7 on another
    partition of my hard drive (w98 as the primary one) and
    installed RB.
    I ran the script located in the Interbase demo dir (there is by another way
    a little problem with it because the ITEM_ID_GEN generator already exists in
    the employee.gdb sample database)
    and simply ran the dbExpress/Interbase demo.
    At run time I can't switch between use/not use the datadictionary :
    It seems that the Tables names and the Fields Names are not refreshed in the
    QueryWizard and the QueryDesigner.
    Because I had not enough time today no more tests have been made.

    Cheers
    Marc
  • edited March 2003
    Ok, I mistook what you were trying to accomplish. Yes, if you want to change
    the use of the data dictionary at runtime, you have to clear the meta data
    cache. The meta data cache is what is used to hit the database to retrieve
    the tablenames and store them in a cache. Then as you select tables, RB
    retrieves the field names for the table and stores them as well in the meta
    data cache. To clear this in RB 7 you should be able to call
    gMetaDataManager.Clear. This singleton is located in the daMetaDataManager
    unit. This should cause the meta data cache to be refreshed the next time
    you launch the designer at runtime. You shouldn't change this while the
    designer is active. so you should shut the designer down, clear the cache,
    then relaunch the designer. That should do the trick.


    Cheers,

    Jim Bennett
    Digital Metaphors


  • edited March 2003
    Hi,
    Many thanks it works well now.
    Regards
    Marc
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