Though we see great potential in the Linux theater, we must make our decisions based on business realities. Therefore, we currently have no plans to develop a Kylix version. We will certainly make an announcement if this situation changes.
Best regards,
Nard Moseley Digital Metaphors www.digital-metaphors.com
Thanks for your answer. Even if it doesn't really satisfy me. What we were thinking of is using linux as a server for dynamically generating web pages based on reports designed with report builder. So we don't really need all the functionalities but still some of them....
In the reports product family, you got one competitor ( http://www.fast-report.com/ apparently, they got an alpha release), whose product look like yours and have announce future avaibility of it's components for kylix. So will our only solution (and for other people who want to do cross platform development) be to switch to product like fastreport ? You'll loose customers, and we'll loose time
Sorry for pushing you a bit but I saw that buisiness realities of lot of Delphi components writer seems to go by implementing kylix version of their components. For now, the market could be quite limited as lot of people are attending avaibility of kylix 3rd tiers components before starting their projects on that platform.
I would also love to see a Kylix enabled version of ReportBuilder. While the majority of applications will still be targeted on the Windows platforms, more and more designers (like me) will include Kylix compatibility as a requirement when shopping for a Reporting tool.
Those developers might choose for FastReport even if it contains less features than ReportBuilder, because they do not feel like learning another reporting tool when they need it for Kylix. And personally I feel that Kylix becomming main stream in the desktop market if more a question of when than if.
And last: Do you guys really want to let FastReport rule the Linux world without competition???
At the RAD Tools (Delphi, Kylix, C++ Builder) Product Address, (it looked to me like there was about 1,000 people attending), the speaker asked:
Who out there is using Kylix?
Three people raised their hand. THREE!!! This at the BorCon immediately following the release of the product. Shouldn't that room have been swarming with excited, new Linux developers?
But, as usual, the room was filled primarily with DELPHI developers. And I think the reason is simply price. Though Borland is doing the right thing in its pricing strategy for Kylix, the majority of Kylix users are interested in FREE first and professional software results second, and it's hard to make money off of that kind of market.
It is going to take many, many YEARS for Linux to be relevant on the client side. We can't tread water supporting a major development effort and then a major product on a platform which has non-viable sales levels. This is called STEALING from the RB for Delphi product - and while Borland obviously has the resources to pull off such a feat - we don't.
For those of you seriously considering curtailing the reporting related feature set you provide in Windows apps, just so you can use the same reporting tool in Linux and Windows, I would think again, because your Windows-based competition could end up eating you for lunch...
Easy answer.... do you really do your market studies on a single public event ?
For now, we hadn't start any project with Kylix. This is not due to pricing strategy from Borland. We're ready to make some investments in linux and kylix platform as some of our important customers are asking us to provide them our solution under linux environment. We're answering them that we're currently waiting for third parties components to be available to provide them our solutions.
I think lot of potential kylix customer are just waiting for products like yours to be available to switch to kylix. For instance, we'll not swith to D6 until we're sure that all components we're using are stable under that platform. This doest not mean we'll never buy D6...
And if I'm asking you this and putting you in face of some of your competitors, it's certainly not for curtailing our reporting related feature. It's really to try to find a solution with you.
Cheers,
Gab
PS : Is there any reason I now can't find any of my posts in your news groups ? Should I repost them ?
You shouldn't have to repost. Is there a post in particular that you need some info from- I can get it off the server if you can't find it. What was the subject? I know OutlookExpress is really bad at searching. It usually can't find anything for (
We foward any messages which have attachments, to support@ and then delete the message from the newsgroup. We also only remove messages if they are not related to RB or there is offensive material. I checked the admin's account and there weren't any removed messages from you that I could see.
--- Gab
PS : Is there any reason I now can't find any of my posts in your news groups ? Should I repost them ? ---
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Though we see great potential in the Linux theater, we must make our
decisions based on business realities. Therefore, we currently have no
plans to develop a Kylix version. We will certainly make an announcement
if this situation changes.
Best regards,
Nard Moseley
Digital Metaphors
www.digital-metaphors.com
Thanks for your answer. Even if it doesn't really satisfy me. What we were
thinking of is using linux as a server for dynamically generating web pages
based on reports designed with report builder. So we don't really need all
the functionalities but still some of them....
In the reports product family, you got one competitor (
http://www.fast-report.com/ apparently, they got an alpha release), whose
product look like yours and have announce future avaibility of it's
components for kylix. So will our only solution (and for other people who
want to do cross platform development) be to switch to product like
fastreport ? You'll loose customers, and we'll loose time
Sorry for pushing you a bit but I saw that buisiness realities of lot of
Delphi components writer seems to go by implementing kylix version of their
components. For now, the market could be quite limited as lot of people are
attending avaibility of kylix 3rd tiers components before starting their
projects on that platform.
best regards,
gab
majority of applications will still be targeted on the Windows platforms,
more and more designers (like me) will include Kylix compatibility as a
requirement when shopping for a Reporting tool.
Those developers might choose for FastReport even if it contains less
features than ReportBuilder, because they do not feel like learning another
reporting tool when they need it for Kylix. And personally I feel that Kylix
becomming main stream in the desktop market if more a question of when than
if.
And last: Do you guys really want to let FastReport rule the Linux world
without competition???
Just my 2 cents,
Jan Derk
me like there was about 1,000 people attending), the speaker asked:
Who out there is using Kylix?
Three people raised their hand. THREE!!! This at the BorCon immediately
following the release of the product. Shouldn't that room have been swarming
with excited, new Linux developers?
But, as usual, the room was filled primarily with DELPHI developers. And I
think the reason is simply price. Though Borland is doing the right thing in
its pricing strategy for Kylix, the majority of Kylix users are interested
in FREE first and professional software results second, and it's hard to
make money off of that kind of market.
It is going to take many, many YEARS for Linux to be relevant on the client
side. We can't tread water supporting a major development effort and then a
major product on a platform which has non-viable sales levels. This is
called STEALING from the RB for Delphi product - and while Borland obviously
has the resources to pull off such a feat - we don't.
For those of you seriously considering curtailing the reporting related
feature set you provide in Windows apps, just so you can use the same
reporting tool in Linux and Windows, I would think again, because your
Windows-based competition could end up eating you for lunch...
Cheers,
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Tom Ollar
Digital Metaphors Corporation
http://www.digital-metaphors.com
info@digital-metaphors.com
event ?
For now, we hadn't start any project with Kylix. This is not due to pricing
strategy from Borland. We're ready to make some investments in linux and
kylix platform as some of our important customers are asking us to provide
them our solution under linux environment. We're answering them that we're
currently waiting for third parties components to be available to provide
them our solutions.
I think lot of potential kylix customer are just waiting for products like
yours to be available to switch to kylix. For instance, we'll not swith to
D6 until we're sure that all components we're using are stable under that
platform. This doest not mean we'll never buy D6...
And if I'm asking you this and putting you in face of some of your
competitors, it's certainly not for curtailing our reporting related
feature. It's really to try to find a solution with you.
Cheers,
Gab
PS : Is there any reason I now can't find any of my posts in your news
groups ? Should I repost them ?
some info from- I can get it off the server if you can't find it. What was
the subject? I know OutlookExpress is really bad at searching. It usually
can't find anything for
(
We foward any messages which have attachments, to support@ and then delete the message from the newsgroup. We also only remove messages if they are not related to RB or there is offensive material. I checked the admin's account and there weren't any removed messages from you that I could see.
---
Gab
PS : Is there any reason I now can't find any of my posts in your news
groups ? Should I repost them ?
---
Cheers,
Jim Bennett
Digital Metaphors
http://www.digital-metaphors.com
info@digital-metaphors.com